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My thoughts on River. Spoilers for The Time of Angels and Flesh and Stone.


So, in Flesh and Stone, we find out that River has murdered somebody. It's pretty obvious that the person she killed was the Doctor, now, there are a few reasons I believe she did this...

1. She's the Rani. Think about it, who's the one person that wants to kill the Doctor more than the Master, the Daleks or the Cybermen? The Rani. She was an exile, so it's likely she didn't perish in the Last Great Time War. She may have regenerated in the time between Time and the Rani and Silence in the Library, so it's possible.

2. She's Romana regenerated. An evil Romana at that. The Last Great Time War changed her. The Doctor didn't save Gallifrey, so she's out for revenge. I believe Romana could have escaped from Gallifrey in her TARDIS when the Time Lock was broken by Rassilon and the Master in The End of Time, and adopted the name River. This is possibly the least plausible theory I have.

3. She's working for the Valeyard. You know, the guy from Trial of a Time Lord. The evil incarnation of the Doctor. The one between Twelve and Thirteen. Yeah, he's evil. He may want the Doctor dead. Yeah. That's all really.

Yeah, so, they're some of the theories I have about why River killed the Doctor.


Date: 2010-05-02 11:38 am (UTC)
lost_spook: (Six2)
From: [personal profile] lost_spook
Heh, I love your relating thing back to Six! :lol:

I can't see the Rani because she never seemed to want to go out of her way to kill the Doctor - she thought the Master was an idiot for doing that sort of thing. Of course, people change, and that would be fun, but I suspect it's not that. It would be nice to have the Rani back, though...

Date: 2010-05-02 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haa-hsm-fan.livejournal.com
Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part. I loved teh Rani. But the only person I want playing her other than Kate O'Mara is Julia Sawalha, so really, that theory isn't my favourite.

I've grown to appreciate Six even more since I listened to some of his Big Finish stories and watched over his serials again. He's actually just behind Eleven as my favourite Doctor now.

Also, the Rani could need the Doctor for some experiment, and accidentally ends up killing him. It's plausible. She's a mad scientist, mad scientists by nature do mad things like that :P.
Edited Date: 2010-05-02 01:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-05-02 02:54 pm (UTC)
lost_spook: (Six Clothes)
From: [personal profile] lost_spook
Heh, I remember you saying. Awww. ;-)

And, yes, that sounds a more likely scenario. :-D

(But I still don't think River is really the Rani.) And Julia Sawalha? :lol: It would be brilliant to see her in DW proper, of course, although I'd be happier with her as Romana III than the Rani II. I'm not sure who I'd want as the Rani. It is a bit hard not to think of Kate O'Mara.

Date: 2010-05-02 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haa-hsm-fan.livejournal.com
The way I see it, the Rani is just Lynda Day as an amoral Time Lady. Ifthe Moff won't give us a PG reunion, he can give us Julia as Lynda as the Rani :P.

I could see her as another incarnation of Romana though.

Hmm... there was talk of Gillian Anderson as the Rani. But I don't think she's a good follower for Kate O'Mara. Gillian just hasn't got... how can I put this... the elegance of Kate/Rani. She's a bit to Scully-ish :P.

Date: 2010-05-03 08:08 pm (UTC)
lost_spook: (Lynda writing)
From: [personal profile] lost_spook
Heh. True enough. If the Rani was really keen on running a newspaper. :lol: And he wants to... he's just kind of busy with DW right now. :-)

Oh, I think Gillian Anderson could probably pull it off, although I expect that's only wild speculation. She was very impressive as Lady Dedlock in Bleak House.

Date: 2010-05-04 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haa-hsm-fan.livejournal.com
I think it's only speculation, but I still can't see it. She'll always be Scully to me. To see her as an alien would to a little too weird.

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